Thursday, February 14, 2008

New PETA Commercial: Adopt, Don't Buy

Vegan Chai pointed me to this new PETA commercial about adopting dogs from shelters instead of buying from breeders:



I'm usually not too fond of PETA commercials and advertisements, as they tend to objectify women to get their point across. (See my earlier post on the new vegan strip club in Portland for my take on this). I actually really like this commercial, though.

I bet the breeders won't be too happy, but I don't care. Breeding animals should be banned, as millions of animals die each year in our shelters. My dog is from the shelter and I couldn't love him any more. Please adopt, don't shop.

29 comments:

tinytailstn said...

This commercial is a disgrace. Does this commercial compare to people who have biological children in a world that has millions of children that need a good home? Are we killing children in orphanages when we have our own? I am a responsible breeder who breeds for the love and betterment of my breed of choice. I don't mind if people want to adopt from shelters. That's a good thing and a choice. There are many breeders who also provide rescue services for homeless animals. People who choose to buy registered, full-bred dogs from responsible breeders purchase with the intent of knowing the lineage and history, thus a reasonable assurance of health and good temperament. This is not to say there are not irresposible breeders out there, or that shelter dogs cannot have good health and traits. The chances of good traits and health increase with the knowledge and history of the breed and breeding in or out the traits that make a show dog or great pet. It is irresponsible to say that all people who breed are doing a disservice to other living creatures. The breeders I know love life and animals more than some pet owners who think they love their pets. My breeder friends give love and compassion to their efforts that most people don't recognize. Puppy mills should go away. Responsible breeders are necessary to keep pure bloodlines available to those who want them. Animal husbandry has been around for thousands of years for all species of animals. PETA is narrow minded in saying "Adopt, Don't Buy". This is America, where we're supposed to have freedom of choice. PETA should say, "Consider adoption, but buy the animal of your choice'. We say "Do the world a favor and Eat more PETA."
Eva and Bob
Knoxville, TN

Billy said...

Thanks for your opinion. I'll reply to your statements and arguments point-by-point.

"Are we killing children in orphanages when we have our own?"

I don't believe children are euthanized in this country; however, millions of dogs and cats are killed in shelters every year (The Humane Society estimates 3-4 million), partly due to breeders and selfish or misinformed buyers.

"...thus a reasonable assurance of health and good temperament"

Actually, full-bred dogs are not as healthy as mutts. Health problems are perpetuated and passed on, when these problems would have been taken care of by natural selection. Ever wonder why full-bred dogs have more health problems? Why do they live shorter lives? That's why.

"It is irresponsible to say that all people who breed are doing a disservice to other living creatures."

Actually, I stand by this. All breeders are irresponsible and are doing a huge disservice to the millions of dogs and cats who desperately need homes. How can people breed when there are so many adoptable pets being euthanized every day? It sickens me.

"The breeders I know love life and animals more than some pet owners who think they love their pets."

I completely disagree. How can you claim to love animals when you purposefully breed them, which contributes to the death of so many dogs and cats. Also, it is impossible to love animals when you eat them. Please choose a compassionate meal each time you eat.

"Puppy mills should go away."

I completely agree. See www.stoppuppymills.org for more information about puppy mills.

"Responsible breeders are necessary to keep pure bloodlines available to those who want them."

This sounds like an argument for eugenics. Even though my dog is not a "pure breed," I couldn't love him any more.

"Animal husbandry has been around for thousands of years for all species of animals."

Raising animals for our benefit is wrong. One day the world will realize that this is no different than slavery.

"We say 'Do the world a favor and Eat more PETA.'"

This just completely undermines your other arguments, as it makes you look childish and unintelligent.

So, in summary, I guess I have the following to say: breeding is always wrong and I hope breeders realize what they are doing. It is completely unethical to breed more animals when we have so many dying in our shelters.

Anonymous said...

There would be zero dogs in animal shelters if all owners/breeders would always take back their dogs/puppies should the new owner not be able to care for them.

But that is an ideal world.
I am a breeder and do just that.
I also believe all breeders should adopt an unwanted dog. I do this too.

How many shelter dogs you have in your home right now. Do you adopt on a regular basis?

I dislike seeing people advocate for ideals but only talk the talk. If you don't walk the walk, then you're just making noise and are part of the problem too. Making a statement really means nothing. Living by example says it all.
You are part of the solution or part of the problem, period.

There will always be a demand for pets. Supply and demand is the way of our society. You don't have to agree with it but it is the way it is. I can only do my part by being responsible for what I produce and adopt shelter dogs that were someone elses irresponsibility.

Be a leader, not a follower. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

tinytailstn said...

And thanks for your opinion. Your opinion doesn't make you right by any means.
You said "Actually, full-bred dogs are not as healthy as mutts. Health problems are perpetuated and passed on, when these problems would have been taken care of by natural selection. Ever wonder why full-bred dogs have more health problems? Why do they live shorter lives? That's why." Ethical and responsible breeders cull out any problem pups from their breeding programs so that problems are not perpetuated and passed on. Believe it or not, natural selection happens even in good breeding programs!!! Puppies that may have defects that the human eye can't detect are culled out by their own dams. And where are the stats that say mutts are healthier than pure breds?
Also, 3-4 million animals are euthanized annually? That's sad. But it's a fraction of the number of so-called legal abortions performed annually. Life is life, right?
I know all about puppy mills and am familiar with that site, thanks very much.
You may stand by all breeders being irresponsible, but I do not. That's my choice.
I'm sure you couldn't love your dog anymore than you do. But we have the choice here to love all our animals, whether purebred or not.
Finally, when you say it is wrong to continue to breed when so many are dying in our shelters, what's your theory if all the animals of the world are adopted out (spayed and neutered)and then die a natural death? God made us (humans)the administrators on this earth. Don't blame everyone for some peoples' irresponsible actions and policies.
Oh, and next time I go to a restaurant, I'll avoid the dog, cat, parrot and horse on the menu (sometimes I feel childish, but I'm not unintelligent).
That's it from here. I'm sure we won't win any points when dealing with a fanatic.
Eva and Bob

Anonymous said...

I think you are missing the point here Billy boy. Where do you think the majority of those shelter dogs come from? Why do you think we have so many mixed breed dogs? If people would be more responsible about spay/neuter, we would not have so many mutts that are unwanted. It's not the responsible breeders who are to blame. It's the guy who picked up the free puppy from walmart parking lot and then didn't have it altered and then the neighbor dog bred with it and now we have more free puppies on the parking lot of walmart, and so on and so on. Then you have the puppy mills who take not consideration for health or where their puppies go. This is where the pure bred population in shelters come from. All the breeders I know take back their puppies/dogs and never allow them to be put in shelters. You are also way out of line as far as illness and lifespan of pure bred dogs. The statistics are bogus because most of thes mutts are never taken to the vet. The people didn't spend any money for them, so they don't want to spend any money on them. So, your statistics can only be based on the dogs who are going to the vet for treatment. You have no idea how many mixed breed dogs die everyday that were never taken to the vet for vaccinations or anything else for that matter. You should really get your narrow minded head out of your butt and take care of the real source of the problem, rather lumping anyone who breeds dogs into the same catagory. Got news for you buddy. If their was no one breeding domestic animals, they would go extinct. The problem is people need to take more responsibility for their actions and be better stewards to God's creatures. Why don't you work on educating the public on that matter. Make them understand that a puppy is for life, not just until you get tired of it. Do somthing crazy like showing parents who suddenly decide they don't want to clean up after their kids anymore and take them to a shelter.

Laurie, NH said...

I totally agree with "anonymous"...responsible breeders stick to pure bred dogs and take the integrity of their lines seriously. Mixed breed dogs in shelters (which the majority are mutts) come from back yards where intact dogs are allowed to roam free and mate whichever dog is willing. I'm not denying that mixed breed dogs make wonderful pets, but to come down on legitimate breeders of pure bred dogs is just irresponsible. It's easy to target those of us that stand up for a passion that we so strongly believe in (our breed), so you can "find" us out here....it's those that hide their wrongdoings and pretend they aren't part of the problem that get off easy because people like PETA expend all their energy on us. I am not anti-PETA, however, I do think that their mission becomes nothing more than a plea for attention when they needlessly attack people who are doing the right thing. I would gladly support their efforts if they were targeting the true offenders. Please...consider the big picture when throwing out broad statements like all breeders are in the wrong.

Responsible breeders spend countless hours making decisions on the welfare of their dogs and future dogs....those that are producing the majority of unwanted pets don't spend a single second on the future of their dogs, THAT'S why they end up in shelters.

Nicole said...

I am a veterinary student, and I'm not sure where the idea that breeders or people with pure-bred animals take their pets to the vet more often than people with mutts. People who have been able to afford to buy expensive animals are sometimes more able to pay thousands of dollars on care for the animal, and if it is for the breeding animals they often see this as an "investment" and are therefore willing to put down the funds. But there are also plenty of people with adopted animals who are willing to take out second mortgages on their houses to pay the emergency vet bills. I'm definitely not saying that I think people love purchased, purebred animals any less than adopted animals, but certainly no more. Mixed breed dogs and cats are on the whole healthier than the best bred pure-breds. The genetic problems that have developed as a result of breeding for specific traits counter each other in mutts; the more variable a gene pool the healthier the progeny. There are no sketchy statistics here, just science.

The problem with "responsible" breeding is that it is inherently irresponsible, no matter how much care is being shown to the animals being raised. A breeder may be responsible in regards to the animals he/she is breeding, but I don't think it's responsible to breed more animals when so many are being euthanized in shelters every day. And yes, I do feel all animals should be spayed and neutered, and if breeding stops completely and all of the cats and dogs in the world are spayed and neutered (and I think some real thought will show how ridiculous it is to think this would even be a possibility worth considering, with all of the stray animals, all of whom it would be impossible to track down and spay/neuter)then there would be no more cats and dogs. And I would be out of a job. But I think that's something we could consider if it ever happened, and at that point there might be a form of responsible breeding - allowing animals to breed that would have homes waiting for them, once all the shelters are closed down because there are no more homeless animals.

Billy said...

"How many shelter dogs you have in your home right now. Do you adopt on a regular basis?"

Actually, since you're interested, I have two cats and one dog. They were all rescued from shelters.

"You are part of the solution or part of the problem, period."

I live by this quote. I see breeders as part of the problem. Please stop creating more animals when so many die each year.

"And where are the stats that say mutts are healthier than pure breds?"

Go work in a veterinary clinic. You'll quickly see that purebreds have more serious health problems.

"But it's a fraction of the number of so-called legal abortions performed annually. Life is life, right?"

If this is what you think, you should be vegan. Are you? The best way to respect all life on earth is to adopt a vegan diet.

"What's your theory if all the animals of the world are adopted out (spayed and neutered)and then die a natural death?"

We're very far from even worrying about that. If that time was approaching, we'd have to consider the options then. Right now, my concern is with the millions of dogs and cats dying each year because 1) people don't spay and neuter and 2) we have irresponsible people who think it's a good decision to breed.

"God made us (humans)the administrators on this earth."

I hate this view. Humans are in charge so we can do what we want. We're doing a great job, aren't we? We're destroying the planet pretty quickly. Anyway, if we have dominion over animals we should act responsibly. Breeding is irresponsible.

"I'm sure we won't win any points when dealing with a fanatic."

Sweet, I'm a fanatic. I worked hard to be labeled as one. I guess in today's world you get called a fanatic when you have a reverence for life.

"I think you are missing the point here Billy boy."

Hey, only my best friends call me Billy boy. Sadly, you're not one of them. Maybe someday, though.

"You should really get your narrow minded head out of your butt and take care of the real source of the problem."

I'm trying to take care of the real sources: breeders, lack of spaying and neutering, and a disconnect between ourselves and other life on this planet.

"If their was no one breeding domestic animals, they would go extinct"

First, you spelled "there" incorrectly. See my response above.

"The problem is people need to take more responsibility for their actions and be better stewards to God's creatures."

People do need to take more responsibility. You're correct. So, let's start being responsible and realize that animals are dying while we're breeding more of them.

Billy said...

Thanks for your insight and opinion Nicole. You're right that we don't have to worry about an underpopulation any time soon.

Anonymous said...

OPINIONS.....that is the sole basis of this and many other discussions. What it boils down to is that you are allowed your oppinion and I am allowed mine. Chances are neither of us will ever change regardless of what argument the other puts up.
“In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every other man is entitled not to listen.”
— G. Norman Collie

The problem with organizations such as PETA, is they try to get litigation that will uphold thier oppinions. When laws are made stating that one person or groups oppinions are to be held in higher regard than another's, all in the name of "they" know best, our freedom and liberty is at stake. This is not a problem for you, because it is what you believe in, but if someone came along and put laws in place goeverning something you held very dear, that would be another story completey. Educating the public is admirable for a cause. When an organization decides what is best for everyone, that is NOT democracy and that is NOT what this country is supposed to be about. PETA goes too far. Some of us enjoy meat with our vegetables and some of us enjoy the world of pure bred dogs. We do NOT deserve to be crucified for it.

Anonymous said...

An insult to the intelligence of anyone considering buying a puppy from a reputable breeder.

Let's see some of you dropping your medications and martyring yourself for the cause. I'll jump on board then.

Billy said...

The fact of the matter is that in today's society we no longer need to eat animals. We can survive on a plant-based diet; in fact, it is much healthier. Therefore, we are unnecessarily killing animals for food...for taste. That is wrong.

Billy said...

"Let's see some of you dropping your medications and martyring yourself for the cause. I'll jump on board then."

I actually take no medications. I use natural herbs and remedies, which are not tested on animals. I'm not sure why non-vegans always get so defensive and try to point our vegans' hypocrisies. Veganism is about doing all you can. It's about avoiding unnecessary harm and suffering. Instead of tearing us apart, why not adopt a vegan diet yourself?

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, Mr. Vegan- so you are one of the RESPONSIBLE no medications user. But what about the PETA folks that do use medications for themselves and their children? Medications that have been testing on animals or developed using animals?? Just as you are a responsible eater there are responsible breeders as well.

It's the PETA folks that do take medications that need to stop. How about if they watch one of their own children die rather than give them a life-saving medication tested on an animal. If they want to be taken seriously take the propaganda all the way. Pop their dead kid in a bag and say "see, I really do believe what I am talking about."

Don't do it half way. It means nothing then.

Billy said...

Please understand that PETA doesn't speak for the entire animal rights movement.

Anonymous said...

No, PETA doesn't speak for the everyone in the animal rights movement, but by you posting their ad on your Blog, you are supporting them and their cause.
Create your own group and ads or you are PETA. Have you read where PETA has rescued/stolen animals then killed them? Come on. You should check out PETA for real. www.petakillsanimals.com. Is this what you support?

And, adopting 3 animals from a shelter really doesn't prove to me you are doing your part. Do you volunteer your time to at one? If so, how many hours per week? How much money or food do you donate to a shelter? If so, is it on a regular basis? (a couple time doesn't constitute true donatioins) Do you have your own animal rights group? Do you vote?

Again, talking and doing are two different things. You've not proved to me you are a true advocate by adopting 3 ( out of millions), being a vegatarian and having a blog with a PETA commercial on the web.

Billy said...

Instead of tearing everyone down, why not join the cause and do as much as you can to prevent unnecessary suffering and violence in this world?

Anonymous said...

Great commercial! I have my dislikes concerning PETA but then I also have my dislikes concerning my chosen political party and the religion I was raised in. None of us are perfect and neither are any organizations.

Billy, you have graciously and intelligently torn apart every point brought up by the breeders. However, you will probably not change any of their opinions. They make money by breeding so they have a very strong reason to defend their beliefs. And once someone starts referring to us as God's stewards of the earth with dominion over all creatures, I realize that the debate has gone beyond the realm of intelligent conversation and right into the land of unsubstantiated "beliefs." It's difficult to breach a closed mind. But you get my respect for trying to do so.

I once purchased a pure bred cat but would never do so again after realizing that my choice caused the death of another. I also ate a lot of animals in my past but stopped that too when I woke up to the fact that it was unnecessary and hateful. It was a long path to where I am now and I had to drop a lot of wrong beliefs to get here. Maybe someone will read your blog and open their mind enough to reconsider their actions and beliefs.

Keep up the good work!
DV

Billy said...

Thank you DV. You are correct in stating that people with a vested interest will fight strongly to defend their beliefs.

That's wonderful that you realized what you were doing and became a vegetarian. I used to eat animals as well, many years ago, but realized what I was doing.

Thanks for sharing and take care.

Anonymous said...

Tinytailstn mentioned human abortion and the killing of dogs and cats in shelters. They are two different things. The killing of human babies does not justify the killing of other species.

Oh, and the anti-slavery campaigners and those who campaigned for votes for women were also fanatics.

Some posters rightly point out that unsupervised dogs and cats, left to roam free, breed like rabbits. But breeders offer their animals to people who want dogs or cats, If there were no breeders, the only animals to be had would be those in shelters. The thousands of dogs and cats who are bought from breeders would be replaced by the animals from shelters. Even if some people who would buy from breeders would not bother getting an animal from a shelter, there would still be more being taken home and fewer left in shelters than at present.

Billy is right to say that the adoption of veganism is the best way to respect all life - including human life.

An annonymous person harps on about vegans who take drugs that were tested on non-humans. But he or she seems to forget that he or she, or someone they love, has probably taken drugs or been treated with some knowledge gained by testing on unwilling and unwitting humans. If you think humans are special, you should not use any drugs as you can never be sure that they are not tainted with human testing. And don't buy anything made in China or many other Eastern countries where workers have no rights and where, in some countries, child slaves make the things you buy.

The fact is, all drugs are tested on non-humans. If someone is ill and believes the drugs might help them, they have no option. Why should they die for their beliefs? Better to stay alive to continue the fight to outlaw vivisection. And, don't forget, over 100,000 US citizens die each year from the side effects of medically prescribed drugs. If you use drugs you are tacitly approving of the current methods of drug development and giving the green light for more of the same. If you value human life, you should be calling for an end to vivisection and the adoption of modern drug development methods.

Martin

Anonymous said...

Pet Underpopulation: The pet shortage in the US
http://spanieljournal.com/33lbaughan.html

More Cities Importing Pound Puppies
http://www.petpac.net/news/headlines/20030130_cities/

Billy said...

"Oh, and the anti-slavery campaigners and those who campaigned for votes for women were also fanatics."

You're absolutely right Martin. Everyone at the time thought these campaigners were nuts, but history proved otherwise. This will be the case with the animal rights movement as well. People in the future will not believe how we could have done what we did to animals.

Thanks for sharing!

Billy said...

There is not a pet underpopulation in the United States. Those sites are pretty interesting and biased. Anyway, even if those facts are correct and the number of euthanasias have decreased, there are still millions on animals being euthanized. Even that site points to 5 million pets being euthanized in 1990. The recent number I've seen is around 3 million, which is still a hell of a lot.

Since there are animals being euthanized, that means that there are still a lot who need homes. Even the statistics on those sites support adoption over buying.

Daniel said...

A population of animals (wild or domestic) breeding unchecked in any manner is not natural.

People who spay and neuter are doing a good thing.

Responsible breeders are doing a good thing.

People who adopt are doing a good thing.

People will always argue about what is right or wrong. Who is right? Obviously everyone believes their point of view is correct. Who is really correct?..... Me

Billy said...

People who spay and neuter are doing a good thing.

Correct. I definitely agree. We need to spay and neuter, as millions of dogs and cats are euthanized every year.

Responsible breeders are doing a good thing.

I disagree. In today's society, there is no such thing as a "responsible" breeder. Breeding is irresponsible. We need to focus on adopting the animals in shelters who need animals.

Leigh said...

That is the best commercial EVER! It is harsh, ugly and TRUE. There is no such thing as a responsible breeder. If you cared so much about dogs, you would be trying to help control the population not adding to the problem. For all of you out there that will say you know where all your dogs are, I say "BS". They end up in shelters too. I have seen $10,000 Shutzhunds with tattoos in their ears. I bet that breeder thought he would get that dog back too. You prostitute you babies for profit. You do it proudly, admit it proudly. You kill other dogs so you can make money. Good for you. You are a disgrace.

Adopt A Dog Save A Life! said...

While I completely agree with the belief behind this ad, I wish that PETA could find a way to send this message to the people who can really make a difference and who really care about ALL animals, rather than making them angry such that they fight against you and the animals continue to suffer.

The way I see it, it is unlikely that you will change the minds of those who think of animals as objects and possessions to own and discard as they choose. Such messages will not change the fact that some people see nothing wrong in breeding dogs in puppy mills - those people don't care about animals, and likely never will.

The people who can make a difference are those that truly love animals - and I agree, nobody who loves animals should ever buy one as long as there are pets in shelters who need homes and are put to death if they are not adopted.

No dog should be brought into this world to be anyone's fashion accessory. But that is what happens with so many of the dogs purchased from BOTH puppy mill pet stores AND breeders - no matter how well intentioned the breeder is.

I have always adopted from shelters - and some foolishly think this means my dogs are worth less than their pure bred dogs, as if somehow my adopted pets make me cheap... they don't realize that there are adoption fees and in my case, medical costs - because I have always adopted dogs that were less desirable due to costly medical issues.

The more important thing is that money is not the only form of value - and my mixed breed rescues are loved and valued for the unique beings that they are.

When people say they love animals and then proceed to buy a pet instead of adopting, I always say they only love animals on their own terms... if they are the right color, size, shape, etc... the dog equivalent of racism.

All that said, I think messages like this ad make people fight against the message instead of seeing the truth: If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. As long as people buy pure bred dogs, there will be puppy mills to appeal to those who don't know any better. If you truly love dogs, you will not hide behind your excuses and rationalizations for buying a custom bred pet when so many dogs are killed every day - and these are not just older dogs or dogs with behavior issues - the dogs put down include litters of puppies.

If breeding is someone's livelihood, they are unlikely to change their belief that they are not a part of the problem... they blame the puppy mills... but puppy mills would not exist if breeders did not breed AND sell. If you want to breed for your own purposes that is your right - but as soon as you take orders and bring dogs into the world while others are killed, you are the reason puppy mills exist, the dogs you sell make someone who can't afford your prices turn to a puppy mill.

It is those who order from breeders that we must appeal to through their love of animals - and I believe that is done through example... some people just don't feel compassion the way some of us do. Some people don't feel bad for all the dogs that die every day. But some of us do... and if we can educate those that truly love dogs - that is a start.

Highlight the dogs that came from shelters that have gone to good homes and are proof that adoption is of benefit to BOTH the adopter AND adoptee.

And if PETA has any pull in the movie business, try and get them to feature more mixed breed dogs. Every time a movie comes out featuring a pure breed, the masses rush out to buy that breed... maybe the same can happen with dogs in shelters.

Or how about a tax on dogs purchased from breeders that will go toward free spay and neuters for adopted dogs?

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